Understanding Number of Attempts for Swaying Pink and Blue

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Why does atomic sagebrush say that one attempt sways pink, and 3 or more attempts in the fertile window sways blue?

Prior to the earliest days of the Gender Dreaming site (2010-2015), no one had ever guessed that number of attempts could possibly sway. I spent thousands of hours from 2007 on (my 3rd boy was born in March of 2008), devouring everything I could find about gender swaying, and never once did I see any mention of number of attempts ALONE possibly swaying.

Some sources, like Shettles, relied on one attempt at ovulation for a boy and one attempt with a cutoff for a girl, precisely because no one thought number of attempts could make any difference whatsoever. If Shettles had believed number of attempts might sway, he never would have recommended that approach for BOTH genders! And while the Ingender site liked people to do one attempt, it was partly because of Shettles, and partly because they rely so heavily on pH methods, which are easier to use if you only have sex once.

Brief aside – The “Babydust Method”, which does include controlling the number of attempts plus Shettles timing, was not published till 2016, and was probably stolen from what I pieced together on Gender Dreaming from 2010-2015. It appears to me the author heard about the “magic number of attempts”, then retroactively went through all the studies that debunk Shettles timing to find ONE rather sketchy study, done by a questionable source, with far too small a sample size, that was never repeated by any more reputable researchers, to justify stealing one attempt and claiming it as her own. Unfortunately for her and everyone who bought her book, Babydust simply doesn’t work, and it cuts odds of conception too far to be a useful method of Natural Gender Selection. Or so I hear from the hundreds of people who tried “Babydust”, couldn’t conceive with it, and then came to me for help after wasting months or in some cases, even years pursuing it.

How did atomic sagebrush discover that one attempt swayed so strongly pink, anyway?

When I joined the Gender Dreaming team as the Natural Gender Selection expert, I had already firmly resolved not to tolerate the long times to conception that were plaguing other sway sites. During my years on Ingender, I grew very tired of seeing people’s fertility and even their lives ruined by wasting years on sways that were so strict no one could conceive with them. To prevent that from happening on my watch, I had people do all the various old-school sway tactics (timing, frequency, pH, minerals, herbal supplements, etc) and then add attempts to conceive. Remember, at that time no one even imagined number of attempts could possibly sway, so this seemed like a solid strategy to me, both boosting chances of conception while still letting people use lots of sway tactics.

Whenever my swayers went 4-6 months without conceiving (which most did at that time) we simply added attempts to the commonly used sway tactics – pH, frequency, timing, herbs, antihistamine, and so on – because all those things cut odds of conception considerably.  We would have people doing very strict sways with several attempts if they didn’t get pregnant quickly. Much to my shock and dismay, during that time we had absolutely horrible success rates for pink – only 58%, the lowest of the entire history of the Gender Dreaming site. We were still swaying pink, but nowhere near as reliably as we hoped. (Over time, our results for pink have improved dramatically and now hover around 70-75% for both pink and blue, depending on sway tactics used.)

It was all quite confusing, because at the same time, we were getting a stunning 80% for blue. (Interestingly, right from the start of the Gender Dreaming site, I recommended many attempts for boys right from the start because I wanted to boost sperm numbers, which I believe sways blue.) Most of the people who were getting blue sway opposites, that unlucky 20% at a time we were celebrating boy after boy, were the “old-school” swayers doing things the old-fashioned way with mineral diets, douching, and Shettles timing – one attempt. Our methods were working for blue, and they were working GREAT! I just couldn’t figure out why it was that blue swayers were getting such phenomenal results if what I was recommending to people based on the newest and best scientific evidence, wasn’t working? It made no sense whatsoever.

If my methods didn’t work, they shouldn’t have worked for ANYONE. That we were seeing marvelous results for boys, and poor results for girls, didn’t stack up. I began going through our statistics with a fine tooth comb trying to figure out where we were going wrong.

At Gender Dreaming, we tracked our results by individual sway tactic, instead of by individual swayer. That allowed us to see trends that other sway sites cannot see, since the other sites refuse to include results from any swayer who doesn’t do every sway “factor”, no matter how silly or invasive. And WOW, did it pay off! Because we tracked by tactic instead of by person, we could see trends that other sites couldn’t detect. And thankfully, just from sheer dumb luck, we had happened to track number of attempts!

In our results, we found those who had one attempt had 10-15% higher success rates than those who had 2 attempts and 30% higher success rates than those who had 3.  We had 75% for one attempt plus a strict sway (including any or all of the following: cardio exercise, 12 weeks or more on diet, jump and dump, and Clomid), 70% for one attempt with a more relaxed sway, in the low 60% percent range for two attempts, and an unbelievable 42-45% for 3 attempts. EVEN when the “three attempt” people were doing super strict sways otherwise with all the various sway tactics, their results were still much, much worse than those who had one attempt.

At the same time we were also able to observe clearly that herbal supplements, antihistamine, timing (when done with more than one attempt), pH jellies, frequency patterns like abstain and daily release, and several other “old-school” tactics were getting about the same rate of success both for those who did them and those who didn’t.  The same number of people got boys and girls with and without them. These time-honored sway tactics that so many people over the years have told us were foolproof, were getting the same rate of success as things that couldn’t possibly be working, like putting a wooden spoon under the bed and having a fortune told by a “psychic”. The herbal supplements in particular were getting terrible results – barely better than 50-50. And all of them were LOWER than the overall results of the site.

This meant that none of these old-school swaying techniques were actually even working!  So by adding attempts and relying on these methods to sway, we were actually causing poor results for pink swayers. And because I had always recommended more sex for blue swayers because it increased sperm numbers, we had excellent results for blue even WITH the old-school sway tactics.  

Once I realized this, I immediately changed my recommendations for pink, emphasizing one attempt, and moved away from emphasizing the old-school tactics that simply don’t work. Within THREE months – exactly the time it takes people to conceive a baby with one attempt and find out gender – our success rates went up, immediately, drastically, and dramatically. They have stayed up ever since.  I cannot draw any other conclusion than that for pink, one attempt sways, two attempts is better than three but worse than one, and three attempts sways strongly blue. 

Even though it is possible to get a girl with 2 attempts or 3, I do still believe strongly that for most people, 1 attempt in the fertile window of O-3 through O Day is the way to go at least to start.  Totally cool if you want to start off with more attempts, you can still get a girl that way, but I don’t think it’s going to be the best results for most people.  And for blue, I very very strongly urge you to do whatever it takes to have at LEAST two attempts and better yet three or even more in the fertile window O-3 through O Day. DO NOT rely on one attempt for a boy, no way, no how.

Now hold on there, atomic, I’ve checked your swaying statistics and one attempt for pink is not as high as you claimed it was! And for blue, you have had some years there where your results were not in the 80% range! What gives??

Over the course of time, as word hit the streets on one attempt, we were inundated with people who didn’t want to diet, who didn’t want to exercise, and who were just looking for a “magic bullet”. Our good results of the past were in people doing otherwise good sways, so a person who doesn’t do anything else to sway cannot expect the same results, and we should not expect that our overall results would stay as high, if a fairly large percentage of people are not doing diet and exercise at the same time. Despite that, one attempt has always stayed ahead of 2 attempts and WAY ahead of three, always in the high 60 to about 70% range.

Some of you who have been hanging with me a long time may even remember I predicted this would happen, since it is what happens any time there’s a “magic” sway tactic, particularly if that method is easy to use and understand. As more people start using it, including people who can’t be bothered to do more difficult methods, it is to be expected that the results will fall. But that doesn’t change what we saw in the past, where it was very very clear that one attempt along with an otherwise good sway, was enormously effective for pink. One attempt outstripped every other sway tactic other than diet longer than 12 weeks, cardio exercise, and Clomid for those who could get it – in many cases by 10-15%, and for the herbs, as much as 20% better results with one attempt. If you can’t do diet and exercise, by all means do one attempt, but please don’t expect that you’ll get the same results with one attempt alone, as our overall results on Gender Dreaming. For best results with one attempt, you will need to include diet and exercise.

As for blue sways, an ongoing issue we have had is that some of our blue sway hubbies have health problems, are on medication, or have erectile dysfunction issues and have not been ABLE to do the three or more attempts in the fertile window. For whatever reason, when we were hitting 80% with blue sways, we had fewer of these men in our sample group those years. Subsequently, Gender Dreaming has become known as a site that offers HOPE even when couples are struggling with fertility issues, who have been told by other sites that they can’t have a boy and should give up. (I will NEVER tell anyone that, and I don’t care what our numbers look like. I’m here to help as many people as I can, not to massage the results in a certain way to help myself.) Many of our blue sway opposites were in people who ended up with one attempt in the fertile window through no fault of their own, but it has brought our numbers down in some years. The lowest our results ever got in one year was 58% and the overall success rate in other years has averaged between 66-75% depending on the group of swayers we have at any given time. For blue sways in 2019 we got 72%, in 2020 80%, and 2021, 78%.

But atomic, WHY would number of attempts work?? What is the magic to it?

We don’t know, quite honestly. It may be that there is some primitive communication between sperm that sways in some fashion – we do know that sperm can communicate to organize rates of capacitation. Perhaps Y sperm are better able to band together to gain some advantage in penetrating the egg and/or CM while X are better at going it alone or with only a few more sperm to assist. Maybe more sperm on hand signal Y sperm to capacitate more quickly than X or vice versa. It could possibly be that more or a higher number of dead sperm, may cause changes in CM consistency that allow Y sperm to make it thru more easily than X (or vice versa).

It may even be that the very tiny difference in size between X and Y sperm enables the slightly larger X sperm to penetrate the egg with less assistance while the smaller Y sperm may need more assistance. It takes the work of more than one sperm cell to penetrate an egg shell. If the egg shell is sufficiently weakened, a slightly smaller-headed sperm (Y) may have a momentary advantage over a larger-headed X sperm due to surface tension – for the same reason a sharpened pencil can be poked thru a piece of paper more easily than an unsharpened pencil. Fewer sperm at the egg may confer a momentary benefit to a larger-headed X sperm because due to their larger size, they may be better able to push their way into the eggshell prior to it being totally weakened – the sharpened tip of a pencil is much weaker than the blunt tip of an unsharpened one.

Or, it may be some combination of all of these things. Or something totally different all together.

But these are “proximate mechanisms” that explain how something might work. They don’t really answer the underlying question – the ultimate mechanism – the question of WHY would the number of sperm on hand sway to begin with?

I have wracked my brain to come up with an ultimate mechanism as to why sperm numbers could confer any evolutionary benefit to one gender over another, and I think I have a couple of decent possibilities. Please understand that this is sheer speculation on my part based on a half-dozen studies and some evolutionary biology books I have read, is discussing general trends and possibilities with plenty of exceptions, and is not meant to be in any way offensive to anyone. I debated on leaving this section out all together because I do not want to offend anyone, but I think one of the reasons why people like my sway information is because I do try to figure out the deeper reasons behind gender swaying rather than just going off blind faith that these tactics actually work for SOME reason. It also demonstrates how both very frequent and very infrequent intercourse might sway for both DH and DW, which I know is a sticking point for some people.

1)Dads Vs. Cads theory: When a guy is having a LOT of sex or NO sex, it sends the same signal to his body – he may not be in regular possession of a woman. This is often true in primates and also in many other mammals and some human cultures as well. Either he’s servicing a lot of women/one woman several times in a row over the span of a few days/weeks, possibly in the short term in a “hit and run” fashion, and may not be around in the future to provide protection and food to the family. Or, he got a one-time opportunity to mate that he does not normally have access to, and again, may not be around in the future to provide protection and food to the family.

Female offspring tend to have better rates of survival than male offspring do (in nature, in primates) when there is not a biological father around. This is firstly because they need fewer calories and less protein to survive/reproduce and their dietary needs can be better met thru gathering, which is typically a female endeavor. But it’s also because when a new male takes over the troop/tribe/clan, he often kills all the male offspring while allowing the females to survive. This is something we see in a wide array of animals, but especially in primates.

In a committed, long term relationship on the other hand, intercourse tends to occur regularly but not every day. Married couples under 30 report having intercourse 2 times a week on average; by 50-59 this rate falls to an average of once a week. Those between 30-50 fall somewhere between the two. Intercourse twice a week or so, averages out to be pretty close to the every 2-4 days that equates to max. sperm numbers and health and sways blue.

We have human studies that indicate more sons are born to people in stable, long term relationships and even one that indicated that families with more sons were less likely to divorce than those of all daughters. That having been said, many of the families I know with all daughters are in very loving and stable relationships and my now-husband and I were kinda rocky and not very committed when we conceived our first son, so I stress again that there are PLENTY of exceptions and this is not meant to be applicable to everyone or offensive to anyone.

2)Single Moms Need Daughters theory: When a woman is having little/no sex, it may send a signal to her body that there is not a man around regularly and as a result, there may be no protector/provider and a girl offspring would have a better chance of survival for the same reasons mentioned above. We have one study that indicates that this is true (single moms do have more daughters than the population as a whole) and actually Charles Darwin himself studied the issue in his book The Descent of Man and came to the same conclusion .

Women who are in short term, whirlwind relationships that may not be fully committed tend to have more sex in the short term than committed couples do, and so frequent intercourse may also signal the body that a girl offspring conceived during the haze of a fledgling relationship would have a better shot at survival, because the male has not proved himself to be a good protector/provider at that point. Our bodies may “know” on some subconscious level, that intercourse every 2-4 days may mean that a father is around to provide meat and protection to our sons.

Additionally, women may be able to sense and respond to the hormones that a partner provides and may even become more fertile in the presence of a male to whom she is not genetically related. Some research indicates that in a home with a stepfather, young girls even enter puberty at younger ages due to these hormonal signals. Things that increase fertility tend to sway blue.

Daughters themselves ~may~ be more of a helpmate to single mothers than sons are. In some primates and many species of birds (human mating patterns closely resemble that of many birds), teenage and adult daughters remain at home helping their mothers to rear siblings, while sons oftentimes are driven off. Primate daughters rear their offspring alongside their mother’s, while dutiful bird daughters actually forgo starting their own families to assist their mothers!!! This assistance from daughters may help to keep her mother and her siblings alive, so the timely birth of a daughter may help to ensure that the entire genetic line has optimal chances of survival.

All that was very interesting, but what should I do in my sway?? How can I harness the magic of number of attempts to help me get a boy or a girl?

Stay tuned, because coming soon will be the Guides to Managing Attempts for pink and blue!

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